The details for two new stations for the London Overground have been announced, with each of them serving separate branches south of Willesden Junction.

The impetus for the new stations is the planned conversion of much of the area from existing railway sidings into a huge new housing estate, and interchanges with both the Elizabeth line and High Speed 2 (HS2).

Old Oak and Park Royal have the potential to deliver 25,500 new homes and at the centre of these plans is a new station at Old Oak on the HS2 route providing connections between London, the Midlands and the North.

Following on from the 2014 consultation, working with Network Rail and the OPDC and co-funded by the European Commission (EC), TfL has undertaken work to develop an initial design for potential stations at Hythe Road and Old Oak Common Lane.

It’s worth noting that the plans have changed substantially from the original intention, which was for a single larger station and a major diversion of the Overground lines. It would have put the new station right next to the planned HS2/Elizabeth line stations, but at a considerably higher cost.

TfL is now seeking views on these two alternative London Overground stations:

Hythe Road station – This potential new station would be situated about 700 metres from the HS2 and Elizabeth line station.

Old Oak Common Lane station – This potential new station would be situated about 350 metres to the west of HS2 and Elizabeth line station between Old Oak Common and Midland Terrace.

Although not mentioned by the TfL consultation, the Old Oak Common Lane station could also be included in the proposals for a new stretch of Overground line via Harlesden and Cricklewood

Arguably these new locations are less convenient for passengers swapping between the various railway lines compared to had here had been a single central station, but could be argued that two smaller stations are better for residents as they are closer to planned housing developments.

The new locations also avoided the problems of construction that would come from interfacing with the live Elizabeth line and the still under construction HS2.

There will be public events to give people the chance to ask questions and meet the project team. These events are taking place at;

The Nadi Park Royal, 260 Old Oak Common Lane, London NW10 6DX

  • Monday 30 October 12:30 – 19:30
  • Saturday 4 November 10:30 – 16:00
  • Monday 6 November 12:30 – 19:30

Further information about the station designs and details of how to respond to the consultation, which closes on 17 November, are available at http://www.tfl.gov.uk/old-oak-common.

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12 comments
  1. Maurice says:

    Add to this the prospect of re-opening the Dudding Hill line to passengers TFL are doing their bit for North-west London.

  2. Adrian Betham says:

    The consultaion map strangely omits:
    – Central Line that runs parallel and to the west of Old Oak Common Lane, forming a triangle with the Richmond Overground and the Elizabeth Line/National Rail.
    – National Rail from Watford Junction and Wembley Central joining the Existing Freight Route and then Overground to Clapham Junction.
    The two locations for potential stations are both as close as they can be without actually providing either a common stop for all trains to Clapham Junction or interchange with the Central Line as well as with National Rail.

  3. Melvyn says:

    It seems we are simply repeating past errors by building new stations 700 metres from the main station they are meant to interchange with …. It would have been useful if diagrams showed Elizabeth Line / HS2 station location instead of depots which have no interest to passengers wanting to change trains .

    As well as the Overground there is the West London Line which passes throthis area without stopping as its former platforms were removed many years ago and should be re-instated as part of HS2 developments.

    Wish we could have Ken Livingstone back as he knew what passengers want re integration of interchanges and that’s not 700 metre hikes with luggage!

    Canary Wharf shows how Stations don’t have to be fully linked but direct largely covered routes between stations makes a considerable difference .

    Remember if bad interchange is provided at OOC then more passengers will travel onto Euston increasing demand there even more !

    • Z. Sullivan says:

      I wish we could have Ken back for MANY reasons. He has sound experience & (mostly) common sense! I NEVER forget the Keep Fares Fare in the early 80’s, also his support for free music festivals & Rock Against Racism.

  4. prptram says:

    I note that the project was to have been :
    “co-funded by the European Commission…..”
    presumably as we are actively leaving the EU this
    funding will not, in practice, now be available ?
    I guess this is the first of many projects where the
    ‘Brexit brigade’ have overlooked the ( unintended ? )
    consequence of their campaign.

    • Melvyn says:

      Actually Electrification of Valley Lines in South Wales was meant to be funded by EU regional funding now they will most likely get the converted former District Line trains running on diesel ! But that’s what they voted for in referendum…

    • James Thompson says:

      Since we are net contributors to the EU, any EU funding is ultimately from the UK taxpayer, just EU branded [and EU admin staff take a massive cut from it in the middle].

      So after Brexit, the money will still be available, it will just come straight from UK government coffers instead of being sent via brussels first.

      Whether the government thinks its a good use of the money – over which it now has a choice – is a different matter.

  5. Robert says:

    And I do hope the double decker is purely for show, because Old Oak Lane is a notorious spot for de-roofing double deckers, thankfully mainly ones running empty to/from the depot.

  6. Paul Donnelly says:

    I thought originally both stations were viable, this must be so, if the Dudden Hill Line is reopened. The developers here and along the ribbon will pay s106 levies. If, I were the local Councils, I would borrow now and build , whilst interest rates are at historic lows.

    In terms of connectivity the stations are too far away. They must consider track realignment for better interchange.

    The Dudden Hill line needs stations at Harlesden for Bakerloo , a repositioned Neasden for Jubillee , Gladstone Park as was, renamed Ken Livingstone, for his insight in getting this railway to where it is now and Cricklewood for Midland Mainline and Brent Cross Shopping Centre.

    The new state of the art signalling on Thameslink means 4 trains an hour Hounslow to Blackhorse Road , journey time 50 minutes, is achievable by Carlton Road Junction and would be an interim solution to Crossrail 2 , at a fraction of the cost.

  7. Geoff Demprunt says:

    I can’t ascertain the topography or the distance but wouldn’t 1 station at the point the lines diverge along with express travellators or mono rail to HS2 be an option worth considering. The idea of Hounslow to Blackhorse Road is a great idea. I remember someone suggesting a similar idea Hounslow to Harringay but Blackhorse has better connectivity.

    Time for Sadiq Khan to step in and make something happen.

  8. Geoffrey says:

    I think that the two new overground stations near Old Oak Common need to be nearer Crossrail /Elizabeth line station with no more than an escalator between platforms. he two proposed names are nonsence. Station names should be district not roads.
    I love Ian’s visits every week my only criticism is your place names for certain events or exhibitions. In this weeks you say Pimlico for Civil Engineers exhibition on Concrete which is just off Parliament Square. Also Whitehall for Queen’s Gallery a long way across St Jameses Park. and finally Gatwick for Bluebelle line walk from East Grinstead.
    I am very grateful for the man at the Science Museum who put me on to Ian’s VisitI

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